The Virgin Issue
Posted August 1, 2009
on:The more I think about it, the more I hate the word “virgin” and wish it would just go away. Long before I came to identify as asexual, I was uncomfortable with the heteronormative nature of the concept, and was aware that it was irrelevant for non-heterosexuals. Sexual people of various orientations can and should redefine and reclaim the idea of being or not being a virgin in whatever way makes sense to them and fits with their idea of what sex is, but opting out of the dichotomy altogether is more complicated.
Since I do like guys in some sense, people (particularly heterosexual guys) often put together the ideas of “straight” and “virgin” and can’t seem to get their heads around the idea of heterosexual virginity being a state that does not necessarily ever need to change. They assume I am attainable, and occasionally delude themselves into thinking they will be the first to attain me. The idea of women who like men but don’t want to have sex with them just does not exist for most people. I don’t like admitting that I am a virgin for this reason, but don’t want to say that I’m not, either.
12 Responses to "The Virgin Issue"
I don’t think society can define virgin, it’s an individual thing, it’s physical, emotional, spiritual virgin can mean many things to many people.
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Also Isaac I would disagree about gay males, not all gay males engage in anal sex, so would they be life long virgins if they just do oral, foreplay and all the other stuff?
That’s an interesting definition of virginity that I’ve not come across before. It would imply that most asexuals aren’t actually virgins, because there’s nothing for us to be virgin to.
I don’t really see a problem, the technical definition of virgin is some one who never had sex. It doesn’t say anything about wanting to or not wanting to. As Mr. R one of the greatest teacher in the world “Guys are Pigs!, If your a Girl Ignore the ignorance!!!!” But in today’s society so are the women.
yeah, before I even knew I was asexual I had told my friends I intended to die a virgin, and since I am an atheist, this confused people. I once had a guy say, “so you’re saving yourself for your boyfriend?” I was like “No, I’m saving myself for myself.” He didn’t hear me, he’d made up his mind. The only possible reason I could be college aged and a virgin was that I intended the “honor” to go to someone “special”, not that I was perfectly content as I was.
I have to agree with Wakari about the technical definition of virgin being someone who hasn’t had sex. Now how you define sex becomes the issue. For instance, I considered myself a virgin until I had sexual intercourse (meaning, until my cat was penetrated). Now, prior to this, I’d let guys eat me out plenty times. But to me, sex meant actual penetration.
Some people will say kissing or even petting equates to sex. I guess all these words are pretty debatable.
1 | Isaac
August 1, 2009 at 11:35 am
I think that the concept of virginity is relevant for homosexual males who practice anal sex.
SlightlyMetaphysical
August 1, 2009 at 1:21 pm
If you mean that it’s important for homosexual men to announce that they’re receiving anal sex for the first time, for practical reasons, I absolutely agree, but I’m not sure about the word ‘virgin’ to describe this. In my opinion, if a gay man’s done everything but receptive anal, he’s not still a virgin.